I have been intrigued with why a good God allows good people to suffer.
So recently I chose to study the Book of Job as one of my required Old Testament courses in my seminary program.
Throughout the book, Job struggled to understand why he, a righteous man, had suddenly lost everything including his entire estate, his health, the respect of his community, and every one of his 10 beloved children.
He simply could not fathom why he deserved such a horrible fate.
Job and his four companions adhered to a reward and retribution theology where they believed that God blesses and rewards the righteous, obedient, faithful. And punishes those who are disobedient and sinful.
Job had become incredibly confused. For while his theology had worked when he assumed he was being rewarded for his innocence, by his experiencing abundant blessings, he now struggled to understand why he, a pious man, had now lost everything.
Job’s companions concluded that Job was being punished because he had sinned. This was the one explanation that conformed to their theology. And the only way they could explain his current fate and hold on to their beliefs.
Yet Job continued to defend his innocence and integrity throughout his ordeal. Therefore, to his way of thinking there was no way that sin could possibly be the explanation for why he was walking through such trials.
Throughout the book, Job and his companions continued to debate and argue about why he was suffering. And as their debates dragged on, Job lamented and grieved his losses. He was totally bewildered. He sought answers. Desperately crying out for his suffering to end and to be done with.
He began to challenge God, demanding explanations.
In the epilogue God finally appears out of the whirlwind to speak to Job and his companions.
God never provides Job with specific answers to his questions about suffering.
But God does reveal His expansive and inexplicable imagination, how He loves to create with a joyful abandon. Sharing His pure delight in all of creation and in every single being He creates.
“He performs wonders that cannot be fathomed, miracles that cannot be counted.” (Job 5:9)
So oftentimes, the what and how and when of God’s creations, such as when He created the ostrich or the hippo, is incomprehensible to us.
Only God, in His infinite wisdom, omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence, can fully comprehend all things. Why things are created the way they are. Why things happen they way they do. Or why He allows good people to suffer.
“To God belong wisdom and power; counsel and understanding are his.” (Job 12:13)
In contrast, due to our limited human capacity, we are simply unable to discern the why behind every twist and turn.
Humans will have troubles and face trials. Our lives will be interrupted by loss. We will suffer. And just like Job, we will often be forced to sit in the mystery about why things happen the way they do.
Never getting complete answers about why good people suffer, and the wicked often seem to prosper.
Though Job never does receive a full explanation to his question about why he had to suffer and things continued to remain a mystery, he finally arrived at a place where he was able to sit in the uncertainty and the not knowing.
Job had transformed to where he could trust God in the midst of both abundance and hardship.
Comforted to know that while he may never know all the answers, God does.
Resting in the knowledge that all of Creation is in God’s immensely capable hands.
Assured that God lovingly creates and passionately cares for every aspect of His creation.
And He deeply desires the very best for us.
Five Minute Friday Prompt: DONE
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Ayomikun ShosanyaJuly 14, 2018 1:31 pm
I like how you took a look at the book of Job to tackle this question. I also recently wrote an article with a similar premise. I like the book of Job because it also shows us that satan is behind Job’s losses and more interestingly, Job is confused at why God would do that to him but he didnt know it was the devil. Such is our lives as well. The devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy and in the modst of our trials we can easily jump to blame God. He sometimes wont stop these things from happening because like you said, he has infinite knowledge and wisdom and often times allows those things to transpire for our betterment. Something I did want to talk about too was the behemoth. Personally, I believe that to be a creature we would call a dinosaur today due to what it says in Job 40:17, “He moveth his tail like a cedar”. That’s a pretty interesting comparison in my eyes as no large land animal today has a tail that can be compared to a cedar, and the emphasis is also placed on the tail. Hippos and even elephants have thin tails that we could compare to a rope, if you will. Just some thoughts on my part though haha. Great article.
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 14, 2018 2:29 pm
Ayomikun, thank you so much for your thoughtful and insightful comments. Your comments about how Satan comes to steal, kill and destroy are a great reminder about how we need to be watchful and prepared. We can often underestimate and be unprepared for spiritual warfare and spiritual attacks. Often attributing our trials to bad luck, poor decisions etc. But you are so right that the Book of Job also teaches us that so much is going on around us that we are totally unaware of. Job never knew about God’s and satan’s conversations in the heavens, he only knew that he had experienced massive misfortune and that he was suffering. But how thankful I am that we have a good God that ultimately knows all and wants the very best for us! You make an interesting observation about the behemoth. In my class we did spend some time talking about what creature God might be referring to. In the end of the discussion, there was no real consensus on what animal it might have been, just like the variety of ways it has been interpreted in various commentaries and Bible translations. But you makes some great observations about why you think it might have been a dinosaur rather than a hippo! Thanks again for commenting and visiting The Stones Call!
Andrew Restrepo @ The Road To EmmausJuly 14, 2018 1:53 pm
Amen! The book of Job is one of my favourites and it’s a MUST when coming to understanding how GRAND God is. God bless you.
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 14, 2018 2:16 pm
Andrew, Thanks for visiting The Stones Call and for commenting! I am delighted that you enjoy the Book of Job as well. When I told someone I was taking an OT course focusing on the Book of Job they commented on how depressing the book was. And while it does have its hard parts – it is inspirational and encouraging in the end! God is grand isn’t He!
LizJuly 14, 2018 2:15 pm
Thank you for this encouragement from the book of Job. I an reminded of the scripture that describes God as a Potter, and each of us as clay. I hope you have a lovely weekend!
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 14, 2018 2:34 pm
Liz, I appreciate your encouragement. Thank you. Yes, our great God is a Potter who loves to simply loves to create and form and transform us! How thankful I am to be in His strong, capable and loving hands! Blessings to you. Hope you have a good weekend as well!
PrescottJuly 14, 2018 3:14 pm
I love the story of Job and how it teaches God is not punishing you because of sin. He loves you and wants you to succeed. It’s not merit based. It’s love based. Thank you for sharing
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 14, 2018 3:25 pm
Thank you so much for visiting The Stones Call and for commenting. I totally agree that Job is so affirming in that it reveals how God passionately loves us and has unlimited grace for us. It is comforting to know that all that happens to us is not always a result of our own sin or goodness. We don’t necessarily deserve all the blessings we experience. And likewise, we do not necessarily deserve all the hardship and losses we experience. But God, in His abundant love and mercy and grace, walks with us through it all, wanting the very best for us.
VickyJuly 14, 2018 3:57 pm
This reminds me that we’re never guaranteed a perfect life here on earth. We all have trials that He promises to get us through. We are promised so much more than what this world has to offer. I’ve lost 3 wonderful Christian friends over the last several years. God called them home. They weren’t being punished.
Thanks for sharing Job’s story. God bless.
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 14, 2018 11:20 pm
Vicky, I am so sorry to hear about the loss of three of your friends over the last few years. While it helps to know that they are with God, I imagine there is still significant grief in your heart to have lost their companionship. But what an important insight that our trials are not necessarily a sign that we are being punished. Because while some of our actions do cause negative consequences for us, there is so much that happens in life that is beyond our control and understanding. You make a good comment about how we are not guaranteed a smooth or perfect life here on earth for we will have trials and hardships at points throughout our life journey. But in those trials we can be confident God is present and He will help us walk through these difficult times. Thanks again for commenting. Blessings to you too.
Jessie @ One Lost CoinJuly 14, 2018 4:19 pm
Job has continued to show up in my life in the last few weeks again and again. It is so cool when little coincidences like that happen. I love how you explain God doesn’t explain the reason for the pain but explains his imagination!
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 14, 2018 11:11 pm
Jessie, I am so delighted that this post resonated with you and that it somehow fits providentially in with your last few weeks. It is so interesting how things, events, people, articles, Scripture verses etc all pop up at certain times! Yes – it is so important for us to understand that God is a Creator who has an amazing imagination and simply loves to create. And that He is absolutely passionate about every single thing He creates. The professor who taught the OT class I took that focused on Job suggested that God is not One we can contain in neat little boxes, but rather He is One who can be a bit wild and free and full of joyful abandon when He creates. As the professor talked about this, an image come to my mind of God having tins of paint and being just so delighted to be creating that He was painting with a freedom and joy and wild abandon. Where at times He chooses to paint with immense control and detail, but at other times chooses to almost throw the paint across the canvas in big, bold strokes. What an image to have of our beautiful, powerful and creative God! Thanks again for visiting The Stones Call!
Yvonne MorganJuly 14, 2018 4:27 pm
I think the book of Job was the perfect backdrop for looking at this question. I think many of us avoid Job because it is so difficult for us to understand why this happened. We must remember God knows all and wants the best for us always. Good job.
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 14, 2018 10:58 pm
Thanks Yvonne for visiting The Stones Call and for commenting on this recent post! I agree with you that many avoid the Book of Job because it deals with the hard topics of loss and grief and why people suffer. Yet, it is also such an inspiring book because Job is transformed through his trials and is redeemed at the end. And the beauty of God and His character is so powerfully revealed in His speeches in the epilogue that it makes it such a valuable addition to Scripture. And you are so right – even when we do not know why things unfold the way they do – God knows all and wants the absolute best for us! Thanks again Yvonne!
Lisa QuintanaJuly 14, 2018 7:48 pm
Hi Anne! I love your topic, as I am a Christian apologist and this is one area of Apologetics that I’ve studied. The problem of evil and suffering is perhaps at the top of the list of complaints those without faith have against those of us who follow Christ. It is such a tender subject, and one that I know no one is immune. Sometime in every life there exists a certain amount of suffering. Job is a great book to study on this topic. Thank you for your post! Great insight.
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 14, 2018 10:53 pm
Lisa, I am so delighted that you dropped by The Stones Call and read this post! Thanks for your encouragement and your insightful comments.The topic of why a good God allows good people to suffer is a tender subject and that is exactly why we as Christians need to wade into it and grapple with it so not only do we come to a place of understanding it, but we can explain it to those who do not yet believe. I am glad that you enjoy the Book of Job too. It is a challenging book and some might think it depressing due all Job’s losses and struggles, but it is also an inspiring book and so hopeful at the end. And God’s speeches are some of the most beautiful poetry in Scripture and so revealing about who He is, that it is worth reading for this alone! Thanks again for commenting!
Stephanie GammonJuly 14, 2018 8:31 pm
I love how you walk us through to a point of being comfortable with the not always understanding the mystery behind what we see happening. Thank you.
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 14, 2018 10:47 pm
Stephanie, thank you so much for your comment. I am so glad that the article resonated with you and that it may help to help bring some comfort in those times of our lives where we do not understand why things are happening and we are suffering. It can be so hard to find, and hold onto, a sense of peace when our lives are interrupted and we are confronted by uncertainty, loss, hardship, illness or heartaches. But while we may not always understand the why, we can be certain that God does know and does understand. Blessings.
Melinda Viergever InmanJuly 14, 2018 8:42 pm
Wow, Anne! You handled this extremely difficult book perfectly, clearly, and with great eloquence! Your conclusions are spot on and are explained with great clarity. Living in that tension of trust in God and his goodness – the battlefield of faith – is the struggle of every Christian as we deal with our unexplained trials and their whys. Well done, sister! If you don’t mind, I’d like to put your post’s link within the post I have planned for two weeks down the road. I’m not delving into the theology but am dealing with the reality of this tension of trusting when we don’t understand. The link would flesh it out for anyone at a place where they need the theological underpinnings. Just let me know.
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 14, 2018 10:34 pm
Melinda, Thank you for your encouragement and for commenting. I would be absolutely delighted if you would put a link to my article in your upcoming post! Please let me know when you have written it and posted it so that I can make sure to read it and share it as well! I love how you describe the tension of being in the battlefield of faith – the space we so often find ourselves in where we know God is good and we can trust Him but we are suffering in unexplained trials. I look forward to supporting you in your upcoming article. Until then – blessings to you!
Melissa HendersonJuly 15, 2018 3:23 pm
This questions comes up so many times in conversation. Why? Why? Why does God allows bad things to happen to good people? I have faith in God. I know He has a plan for everything and there are times when I won’t know the answer to “Why?” and that is okay with me. Sure, I want answers and explanations. He gives me peace in knowing that whatever happens, He will always be with me. Great message.
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 16, 2018 12:02 am
Melissa, yes, this question and topic does seem to come up frequently in conversations with both believers and non-believers. So often we cannot understand why things have to happen they way they do. Why it is that we have to walk through trials. Why people suffer… I am glad that you are at a place in your faith where you can rest in the confidence that while you may not know the answers and explanations, God has the answers and He will always be with you. Thanks for visiting The Stones Call. Blessings Melissa.
Alynda LongJuly 15, 2018 6:39 pm
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and insights on this topic that seems more and more relevant every day. The verse that always sticks with me when I think of good people suffering is John 16:33 (paraphrasing here) In this world you will have trouble, but do not be dismayed for I have overcome it. Christ never promises us a trouble-free life as believers. In fact, He tells us to expect struggles due to our being on “His team” versus the enemy’s. Although the war will be won in Christ’s favor, it doesn’t mean there are battles yet to be waged. Blessings to you!
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 16, 2018 12:51 am
Alynda, Yes! John 16:33 is a really good verse to connect to the Book of Job and Job’s suffering. It is a great reminder for us to remember that we will all experience hardships and trials at some point in our lives and on this side of heaven. We can so often be tempted to slip into thinking that we will not or should not suffer. That some how as believers we will escape hardship, trials, losses and the associated grief. In the book that is what his companions believed – that the pious and faithful should be rewarded and only experience blessings. And those who sinned would be punished with hardships. And while we do know that one cause of suffering is the consequences of our own sins, like when King David recognized in Psalm 38:5, where he laments his wounds “stink and fester” because of us his own poor choices. And sometimes we face suffering so that we are both refined and are drawn into a deeper relationship with God. The key is not whether, or why we suffer. But rather the key is how well will we hold onto our faith when we are in the midst of trials and grieving. Will we hold onto our faith and continue to believe in God in both times abundance and prosperity and also scarcity? And you are so right, that in the end Christ will win the battle. Thanks for your comments!
Kristi AnnJuly 16, 2018 7:26 am
Amen-Amein!!
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 16, 2018 2:20 pm
Yes! Amen!
Edna DavidsenJuly 16, 2018 11:10 am
Dear Anne!
Interesting topic. Today there’s a tendency to avoid all talk about the evil. The story of Job is one of my favourites because it’s a story with so many different elements of life.
I do also often challenge God, demanding an explanation as Job did – it’s good to have someone to turn to in times of trouble.
With love,
Edna Davidsen
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 16, 2018 2:19 pm
Edna, you raise some really good points! Yes, I do agree that there is a tendency for people to avoid taking about evil and even wading into someone else’s trials and hardships. It seems that there is a temptation to seek “happiness” and to live “happy ever after” type lives. It is easy to understand that temptation because it is far more comfortable and easy to sit in pleasant circumstances than sit in losses and pain. Yet, this is not the reality of our earthly lives. We all will be visited by troubles and be tempted by darkness throughout our lives. So in a strange way, the more we are able to talk about such things and support one another through them – the better we get at walking through them. And I love your point about how Job teaches us that when we are grieving it is okay to lament and weep and even express our hurt and anger towards God. And yes, whenever I have walked through loss and grief I am so grateful to have a loving, compassionate, grace-filled, forgiving, might God to turn to! Blessings!
Heather HartJuly 16, 2018 11:36 am
I love this! The book of Job is one of my favorites because it describes just how in control of everything God is. He controls the wind and tells the rain where to fall. Surely He can handle whatever is going on in my life, and nothing can happen to me that He can’t handle. And Job may have had a horrible experience, downright devastating, but God didn’t leave Him in despair. His life wasn’t over. He mourned for a time, and then He knew great joy once again. That’s how our God works. And that’s how life is. Sometimes we hit a rough patch, but something worth smiling about is just around the corner.
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 16, 2018 2:06 pm
Heather, I totally agree with your observation about how Job teaches us that God is in control of the smallest, and largest details of all Creation! Yes, He just loves to create and then manage all that He has created – so he controls the winds and the rain and the lightening bolts and when animals have their offspring! And that is one reason it is so reassuring to read God’s speeches in the epilogue and be reminded of this so that we can be reassured this same truth applies to our lives! What an amazing God!Thanks for visiting The Stones Call! Blessings.
Tiff|18thAvenueMom.comJuly 16, 2018 3:07 pm
Such a good take on Job! You’re right – as the Bible itself tells us, God’s ways are not like ours, and we don’t understand why He does what He does. It’s not for us to know, and if we demand answers, we will likely get the same response Job did. It’s best to just trust the Lord and continue serving Him. He always comes through!
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 16, 2018 4:37 pm
Thank you for your encouragement Tiff! I really appreciate it. And yes! God has ways and reasons for why things happen that are beyond our limited human ability to understand. We just need to look to the amazing God portrayed in the epilogue, in God’s speeches, and feel comforted to know whose Hands we rest in! Thanks for stopping by!
Marcie CramseyJuly 16, 2018 5:00 pm
Anne, I love your post. Seems we are on the same vein today with our blog posts.
I like two points you make:
1. ) “Due to our limited human capacity, we are simply unable to discern the why behind every twist and turn.” I think for me, it’s these times I just need to trust that God is good and faithful and as you mentioned, “He deeply desires the very best for us.”
2.) “Job had transformed to where he could trust God in the midst of both abundance and hardship.” Much like Paul said about learning to be content in all circumstances, we can learn to trust God in our abundance and hardship. I look at the Iranian Refugees my husband and I ministered to in Turkey last fall and saw what hardships they faced, yet they did it with great joy. Their reason is that they found the One true God and His faithfulness to them through Jesus was all they ever wanted. Humbling!
Great post! Enjoyed it, immensely!
Julie PlagensJuly 16, 2018 7:47 pm
I struggle with the question of how bad things happen to good people. But, alas, we have to trust God that He is the ultimate judge. The part where God talks in the whirlwind would shut me up. It still does. Eventually, it circles around to trust. Great writing.
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 16, 2018 10:37 pm
Julie, I so appreciate you sharing that this is a question you struggle with too. But it sounds like you have come to a place where you are able to trust that God is the ultimate judge and authority. And yes, when God speaks out of the whirlwind it also reminds me of who He is, who I am, and how I need to just trust Him. Thanks for commenting. I appreciate it.
BaileyJuly 16, 2018 8:17 pm
Suffering and Pain are never an easy topic. Have you read Tim Keller’s book on Pain and Suffering? It was really powerful for me to understand hard things and unanswered questions.
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 16, 2018 10:35 pm
Hi Bailey, I agree with you that pain and suffering are challenging topics. I am a clinical counsellor and educator and have found over the years that most people waited until things were really falling apart before they were willing to address the hard issues and seek to understand them through activities such as counselling. And I get it – pain and suffering are hard to walk through, as compared to seasons or events that are more about accomplishments and blessings and happy occurancees. But this can become a problem, because when we face loss we can often try to ignore it or repress our feelings, we can often be unprepared to handle it and often don’t even have a feeling vocabulary or the words to put to what we, or others are experiencing. So good for you to take the time to read Tim Keller’s book and learn more about pain and suffering. Yes, I too have read Keller’s book on pain and suffering and thought it very helpful. I am so glad it helped you better understand this topic. Blessings to you Bailey! Thanks for commenting and stopping by The Stones Call!
Amanda BradleyJuly 17, 2018 12:12 pm
Loved this!! I think sometimes God walks us through challenges to transform us in different ways. It’s only through these trials that our hearts can be softened and we can be a light to others. It’s a great reminder that we are not all-knowing and will never completely understand why bad things happen but we can focus on seeing the positive and using it to help others on their journey. Thank you so much for sharing!!
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 17, 2018 2:24 pm
Amanda, as part of the OT class on the Book of Job that I am currently taking, I read a really good article on suffering that suggested there are three primary reasons we suffer. First, it is because of something we have done and the suffering is part of the consequences for our poor choice. An example of this would be King David in the psalms, such as in Psalm 38:5, where he admits and laments that his suffering is a result of “my sinful folly”. Secondly,just as you observe in your comment, the article suggested that there is much suffering that we simply don’t know the cause or reasons. And this suffering, when we have no understanding about why it is happening, occurs for two main reasons. As we walk through trials and challenges and suffering, we become refined and transformed. We learn and grow and discover things about ourselves and our lives that we would not discover otherwise. Our hearts are softened, we are strengthened, gain more compassion, our faith is deepened etc. And lastly, suffering has the power to draw us into a deeper relationship with God. So when we suffer, we do need to self-assess so that we can discover whether there is any choice or behavior where we have contributed in any way to the suffering and like David, confess and repent for that contribution. But for the suffering where we cannot find any cause or explanation that is where we rest in the comfort of knowing that God is aware of our situation and will be with us as we walk through it. And as you mention, we can use our story and experiences to witness for others and help them on their journey and particularly as they walk though suffering. Thanks so much for commenting and making such good observations!
BaileyJuly 17, 2018 4:01 pm
Thank you for your reflection on suffering. As a woman who has always striven to honor God with my life, battles with chronic illness, depression, and infertility have been hard to reconcile.
BaileyJuly 17, 2018 4:01 pm
Thank you for your reflection on suffering. As a woman who has always striven to honor God with my life, battles with chronic illness, depression, and infertility have been hard to reconcile.
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 17, 2018 11:24 pm
Bailey, thank you for sharing and for commenting. I am so sorry to hear that you have struggled with such challenges. I too have had struggles with health issues over the last 5 years, and my youngest son has had really serious health challenges as he battled with Crohns disease that at some points were life threatening. But we are extremely thankful that he is currently in remission and seek to enjoy each day. So while I do not know your complete story nor can I know exactly what you have gone through, I do have a bit of a sense how such trials can be disheartening and hard to reconcile. Praying that you find strength and peace in any trials you may continue to face, and that you will always feel a sense of God’s presence. Blessings to you Bailey. And thanks so much for dropping by The Stones Call and commenting.
Jasmine HewittJuly 17, 2018 7:10 pm
very interesting look at the story of Job! Its fairly similar to Taoist philosophy – in that everything is the perfect balance of good and bad, without a rhyme or reason we understand (but both must exist)
Anne Mackie-MorelliJuly 17, 2018 11:27 pm
Jasmine, thanks for your comments! Interesting that you see a similarity between what Job teaches and Taoist philosophy in terms of how good and bad inter-relate and how we don’t always know why we have troubles and suffer. I appreciate hearing your thoughts! Blessings!
Debbie KittermanAugust 10, 2018 5:15 pm
Anne – I love everything about this post! You did a beautiful job of answering the question that many people of faith and those who don’t believe struggle with when difficulty comes. I am way impressed you chose to tackle Job as the book to study too… most would steer clear of it, but I love how you write in such plain and easy to understand truth for us all to understand. Thank you – we are neighbors at #BVN this morning but I would have popped over even if were weren’t – I loved reading your interview over there. Thank you and Blessings.
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Anne Mackie-MorelliAugust 11, 2018 1:39 am
Debbie, thank you so much for your encouragement and supportive comments. I find your comment about me choosing to tackle the Book of Job as an OT book to study interesting and astute. You are so right that it is a challenging book and the topic of suffering can be one we prefer to avoid. I chose to study it because my family and I walked through a really hard period of loss and grief for over 5 years where we lost a sister-in-law to cancer, my Father and Mother-in-law passed away, one of my sons had a major struggle with Crohn’s disease (had two emergency surgeries), my health suffered, and my Mother died this past February. So I think I was drawn to studying Job so I could learn more about why a good God allows good people to suffer. I wanted to understand loss and grief through the lens of my Christian faith. And I wanted to learn how to better walk through my suffering,and to be more helpful to others who also faced suffering. The course, with the class teaching and discussions, and the readings and assignments has profoundly impacted me. It has provided healing with my grief, as I have deepened my understanding of God and developed a better grasp of a theology of suffering. Thanks for your comments and for reading the interview on BVN. I would love to join up on your linkup! I will look for it! Thank you for including me! Thanks again for visiting The Stones Call and for commenting! Blessings.